Family of Philip Walter and Susannah Trotman
Philip Walter (1788- born
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Philip's parents were William Walter (1759- ) and Mary Whittle (1756-1834) who married in 1779. Philip Walter, a grocer, married Susannah Trotman (1787-1854, born Keinton Mandeville)
in 1812 and had children including:
- Matilda (1813-1852) - baptised Holy Cross, Babcary
- Henry (1814-1877)
- George (1817-1875) both baptised Wesleyan in July 1817
- Jacob (1819-1861)
- Edwin (b.1821)
- Susannah (b.1824)
- Frederick Philip (1828-1859) who is not registered in Wesleyan baptisms
Matilda Walter (1813-1852) married Edwin Taylor, a saddler from Halifax, Yorkshire, in
Wolverhampton in 1848. They were lodging in in 1851. Matilda only came to light as a result of her death, as a sister of Mr Henry
Walter, being noted in the Liverpool Mercury.
Henry Walter (c.1814-1877) married (1) Mary Ann Finlay (1817-1872), born in Leicester, in West
London in 1838 and had children including: Henry Finlay Walter (1847-1870; born ; baptised St Peter's C.of E.Church)
Edward Rushton Walter (b.1853) {named after Edward Rushton, Barrister and Magistrate of the Borough of Liverpool (1796-1851) and Henry's boss}
and possibly Robert Allen Walter (1855-1855; born and died West Derby). In 1875 Henry married Alice Sarah Lucas (1847-1923).
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Philip and Susannah's son George Walter (1817-1875) was proprietor of the Temperance Hotel,
in 1861 and 1871.
He married Ann Morris (1819-1893) from Bowden, Shropshire at St Mary's Church, Marylebone in 1855. At the time of his marriage he was a
butler; both gave their address as Edgware Road. George gave his father Philip's profession as 'servant', Ann's father James Morris was a
miller. Also staying in 1861 was his sister-in-law Elizabeth Morris (b.1820). A Susannah Trotman Walter (1856-1859) and
George Frederick Walter (1858-1858) were born and died in Cheltenham. His daughter Ann Elizabeth Walter was born in 1860 (died 1933).
When George died probate on his estate of < £800 was awarded to his widow. Ann was proprietor in 1881, Ann Elizabeth was 21 and a son
James T. Walter (b.1862) was 18.
In 1891 Ann was still proprietor of the hotel at 1 Crescent Place (between St Matthias' Church and
the police station) and one of the boarders was William Hastie (1860-1932) from Dumfries, Scotland who married Ann Elizabeth within
months of her mother’s death. Probate on Ann Walter's estate of £255 was awarded to her daughter. In 1901 William and Ann lived in
Coleford, Gloucestershire and in 1911 in High Street, Lydney (William was a credit draper) with their children: Kathleen Hastie (b.1894),
Mary Ethel Hastie (1897-1996, m. 1934 Victor H F Topham, 1901-1987), Annie Walter Hastie (b.1898),
William Walter Hastie (1899-1984) and
George Philip Hastie (b.1903). George got probate for William Hastie in 1932.
Philip and Susannah's son Jacob Walter married Caroline Swayne (c.1820-1848) the daughter of James and
Maria Swayne, in Bloomsbury in 1840. Later Jacob married Jane Owen (1833-1892) from Flintshire in 1852. More about
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Philip and Susannah's son Frederick Philip Walter married Matilda Trotman in Devizes district in 1850.
In 1851 Philip (b.1829) and Matilda Walter (b.1830) were living in London (St George's Hanover Square) with a visitor Henrietta Trotman
(b.1838) (born Wells). Philip was a barrister's clerk and listed as being born in Charlton Adam, Matilda in
. They probably had a daughter
Matilda Mary Ann Walter (b. Pancras in 1858). Frederick Philip Walter probably died in Pancras in 1859. In 1861 Matilda was living with her daughter in
Islington, working as a lodging house keeper. They cannot be found subsequently, but Matilda may have remarried Samuel Wood in 1868.
Matilda was probably the daughter of Charles and Sarah Trotman (transcribed as Tortman in 1841) who had children
including: Fanny Trotman (b.1826), Matilda (b.1830), Charles Trotman (b.1833), Henrietta (b. 1838) and
Edwin Trotman (1840-1921). By 1851 the family had moved to Devizes (the family comprising Charles, Sarah and Edwin).
Fanny Trotman married Joseph Derham in Devizes in 1847 and had children including:
Fanny Derham (1848-1909), Herbert Joseph Derham (1850-1911) {married Minnie Isabel Wymark (b.1869) in 1897 and had children}.
Charles Benjamin Derham (1852-1901), James Edgar Derham (1854-1927) {married Julia Sanders (1857-1929) in 1878 and had children}
and Anne Matilda Derham (b.1856). In 1861 Joseph is described as a master boot maker, Fanny as a 'photographist'.
In 1871 Charles Benjamin was staying with his cousin Samuel James Derham (b. 1848; Devizes) and his wife Ellen nee Heywood in London.
Fanny was probably a laundry maid in Belmont House, Enfield. Herbert was a visitor in the household of Richard Watts in Islington.
By 1881, Herbert, Charles and Fanny were staying as cousins and a visitor with Samuel J. Derham in London. In 1901 Fanny Derham was
lodging in London (in a printer's household) with occupation 'was gentleman's laundress'.
Edwin Trotman married (Fanny) Maria Arnold (1838-1907) from Devizes in Brentford in 1859 and had children including;
Charles Trotman (b.1860), Edwin Trotman (b.1861), Henry/Harry Trotman (b.1862), Fanny Maria Trotman
(b.1864){married 1910} Walter Knowles (b.1864) {previously married Rose Emily Searle in 1884 and had children},
Herbert G. Trotman (b.1866), Matilda Sarah Trotman (b.1867) {married 1891}, Ernest William Trotman (b. 1869)
{married Kate Pearce in 1897 and had children}, Edith Mary Trotman (b.1873), Ada Amelia Trotman (b.1874),
Emily Rose Trotman (b.1875) {married Thomas Lack in 1899 and had children}, Arthur Stanley Trotman (b.1877)
{married Ada Florence Smith in 1901 and had children}, Maud Charlotte Trotman (b.1879) {married William Thomas Smedley in 1904
and had children} and Wallace Trotman (1881-1908). In London 1881-1901; recorded as Tropman in 1881 and Trollman in 1861.
Had moved to Kent by 1907.
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